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the planets puppet-masters almost sure

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you have a plan it's clearly maybe

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something there beyond the realm of man

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till we've thoroughly tested every last

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think you know much you really do where

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see we know the lying to us just don't

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know what to green where would we be

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a car wouldn't come alright higher side

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shatters we know the political corporate

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and controller classes have never had

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our best interests at heart and we live

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in a world awash with weaponized

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campaigns to keep us down fluoride in

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the water other chemicals in the food

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and sky and most recently pulsing

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radiation waves throughout the so-called

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civilized world and as dire and obvious

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as these problems might be to us

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enlightened few we have to remember to

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have patience with our friends family

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and fellow citizens because one of the

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most effective and long-standing

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campaigns we've been victim to is the

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finely tuned systematic brainwashing by

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think tanks and behavioral scientists

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that has taken over the education system

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because if you want to control a people

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start with the kids and in a generation

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you've got the indoctrinated flag-waving

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you always wanted that has been the goal

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the capstone cabal has been working

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towards longer than any of us have been

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alive and today's guest Charlotte

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Thompson is her beat knows this all too

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well if you're not familiar with

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Charlotte's background she served as

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senior policy advisor in the office of

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educational research and improvement for

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the US Department of Education during

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the first Reagan administration where

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she blew the whistle on a major

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technology initiative that would control

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curriculum in America's classrooms

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called Project best better education

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skills through technology she is also a

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former school board director in Camden

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Maine and was co-founder and research

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analyst for guardians of Education for

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Maine from 1978 to 2000 she has also

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served in the American Red Cross in Guam

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and Japan during the Korean War in the

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United States Foreign Service and

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Belgium and in the Republic of South

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Africa

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Charlotte is also a speaker and writer

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who has been taking on the education

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indoctrination issue for most of her

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life best known for a 700 plus page book

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that I consider probably the best

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resource for this conspiratorial

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campaign entitled the deliberate dumbing

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down of America a chronological paper

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trail she also has some incredible

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insights into the skull and bone secrets

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Society of Yale University as her father

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and grandfather were both members of the

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order a fascinating woman who's been

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working on our behalf for decades a

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whistleblower in the truest sense of the

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word and a real education advocate

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Charlotte

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welcome to the higher side well thank

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you so much that was so marvelous

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concise record of my wanderings around

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since I got back after 20 years abroad

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with the Foreign Service etc I had the

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biggest shock in my life right in the

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70s when I innocently put my children in

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the public school system which people

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still think it really is geared to

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education but from 1965 on with the

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Elementary and Secondary Education Act

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it changed that's when they decided that

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they had to put the method in which

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would be useful for corporate fascist

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communist workforce training which is

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going in now cross the board with

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charter schools and school choice so

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when I got back I really saw the

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beginning of it I couldn't quite

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understand why our school superintendent

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was out of Harvard right change agent he

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wanted to put in the individualized

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education which is you know no grade

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intramural working on their own and at

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their own pace and I thought that was

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getting rid of competition etc I really

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knew nothing about what I know now that

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it for Soviet system no competition we

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got a hold of later on the Soviet

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education plan a farmer in Ohio happened

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to be looking for stuff about seeds and

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he found this document on Soviet

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education it was a report by American

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educators who were sent over in 1959 by

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the Commissioner of Education

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to the Soviet Union just study their

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system right after I showered signed the

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first agreement between the United

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States and Soviet Union on education

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cultural affairs etc so that was a

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tremendous find by this farmer and it's

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had my son's website American deception

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calm at the time the American educators

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were still pretty good right and they

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came back and they said well this

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certainly because you've got some of

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that text in my book of their report

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this is total opposite of what we've

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been involved in for years traditional

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academic education so they really didn't

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like it that much I will go on to

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explain how I found out but I'm just

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trying to redefine education for people

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and we can thank Donald Trump and Betsy

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DeVos and of course before that all the

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leftists who were putting in the

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communist system it wasn't just the

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method the method itself was put in in

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1965 the Skinner method performance base

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that's when they changed right from what

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you know in your head so what you could

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do how you can perform like an animal

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and so when I got into the school board

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one day I was complaining about things

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like lifeboat games

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the children were pretending that they

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were in a ship in the ship was going

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down and there was only one lifeboat

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that took ten people and there were 15

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people so they have to decide who's

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gonna live and who's gonna die that kind

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of thing I didn't like these program

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most these programs at that time I did

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not know because I didn't know it's

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going to be in the Department of Ed

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later we're coming out of what would

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subsequently be my old office my new

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office right

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so I've been out of the country 20 years

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what has happened in my country no so I

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get a phone call and I'm always

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terrified when I get a phone call

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because usually I was going to get beat

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up mind you folks this is 1976 in Camden

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Maine right on the beautiful coast of

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Maine where nobody would ever dream such

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things were going on except we were

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about according to a bird if I were

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seagull I could get to us for North

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Haven etc in probably two minutes and

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that's where all of the insiders live

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you know you have the Rockefeller so

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Watson former ambassadors Soviet Union

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have always corporatized these big

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business guys they live there Multi

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banners and I do believe that they had a

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lot to do with making my little School

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District Camden and then it became a

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district hemmed in rockport certainly

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one of the major pilots for change in

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education in the United States I've

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often thought we were it but I don't

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want to get the gold star thank you but

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what I saw was so devastating including

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the health education that had this is at

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least for 11th graders it would be first

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grade now that the students should

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understand the three types of sexual

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intercourse including with animals hmm

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Timmy yeah that's that's a shocker

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that is a shocker which relates to

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everything we are looking at right now

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including the great Dutch banker spilled

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the beans remember yes I did see that

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video that type of thinking that blew my

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mind yes so at that point I had I was on

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school board but I'd also formed a group

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called Maine Conservative Union which

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was very traditional and we had you know

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military people lawyers etc in Maine

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joined together we tried to stop give

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away the Panama Canal we were opposed to

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regional government bank we were

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fighting that but then when this came

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across my desk with the health education

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we decided to disband this wonderful

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political group we had mango several

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unions at least to merge it and it

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became Guardians of Education for Maine

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and then I was still on board and I get

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a call and usually it's from leftist

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change agents really new people in town

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none of the old-time Mainers they all

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loved me when they had to move out

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because the taxes got so high because

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the newcomers coming in you know that

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story when they had to move out I

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couldn't get elected dog catcher because

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I lost my base which were true good

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great Mainers lobstermen etcetera who

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could count and think and you know

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understood reality and so I'm getting

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all these nasty phone calls bad articles

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written about me I hate children in the

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local newspaper so this woman

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I was scared I answered and she said I

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just want to thank you for what you're

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doing on the school board and I thought

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huh what's wrong here and I said blah

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thank you very much and she said well

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you're absolutely correct she said I've

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been a master teacher I worked all

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around the world and you're going

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against everything properly but I don't

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think you understand what you're looking

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at

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going to pay for you to go for change

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agent training down ease down ease just

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going north very strange how we are in

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me and she paid $100 for me to go that

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was a lot back then for her pull out of

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her pocket she had taught all over the

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world

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her name was Salma Hamm I should give

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her credit on some interview yep she's

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gone now so she paid me to go I went to

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this in-service training a lot of very

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nice teachers and principals from our

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own school district and I want to point

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out there's still a lot of great

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educators out there most of them rest of

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it but at that time you probably had 70%

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good

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in the 70s you probably have about 7%

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good know but because they'd been

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through all the brainwashing actually I

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was going through brainwashing that day

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myself so I get there and the guys using

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this textbook that was put together by

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Ronald hvala a professor at the

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University of Michigan Ann Arbor and it

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was called innovations in education and

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it was developed he got the money from

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the US Office of Education at that time

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which subsequent become the department

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where I worked it was paid for by the US

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Office of Ed and it was a training

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manual and he was using that at the

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in-service training so he was training

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us how to identify the resistors in our

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community and that would be the

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resistors to sex ed that we didn't need

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we didn't even have a pregnancy in town

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at that time right drug education we'd

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have a problem with that other all these

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programs that they gave us that came out

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of what would suddenly become my office

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the US Department of Ed or not necessary

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they were necessary because they caused

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the problem they claimed to be getting

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rid of

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and I have a direct quote on that in my

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book from the guidance counselor where

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they said right in there that we will

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use deaf education that was one of the

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big fancy ones so I take the kids to the

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cemetery lie down on tombs into the

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mortuary and a lot of stuff that didn't

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last long parents really did not like

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that they were trying to get death that

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in because that's all the different

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religions etc and a funeral service

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system

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it's all globalism right they said right

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there the guidance counselor's we will

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use death education to change the

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attitudes and values of a students

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towards death and dying the same way we

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used sex education use past camps right

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to change their attitudes and values

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I ever got my hands on that guidance

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counselor's Journal I don't know but I

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did and so that tells you exactly what

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all these programs that had nothing to

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do with academics were put in there for

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and that was deliberate they created

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this culture that we have with our young

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people and hundreds of thousands

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millions of young people mm-hmm who have

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lost their way because of the public

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school curriculum when we were trying to

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identify the resistors I knew that with

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me I was a resistor when I came back

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from the Far East

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I was out during the Korean War I think

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I mentioned that with the Sheikh Air

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Command and Guam and northern Japan and

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when I came back from that assignment I

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was on a freighter Vietnam going from

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Hong Kong to Marseilles was a month I

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was on that freighter in third class and

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so I had the opportunity to talk to

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refugees coming out of communist China

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and Vietnam and the food was marvelous

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as you can imagine even in third class

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they told me these ghastly stories about

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one woman that was coming out of China

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she was taking your daughter to the

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conservatory music in Paris to study

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piano

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and she said that her grandfather was an

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opponent through the mouseykin the

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regime and that they cut his hands off

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he was a pianist cut his hands off he

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resisted vietnam woman her grandfather

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was involved in the municipal government

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he was opposed to to what the Communists

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were doing so they cut his head off as

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they marched it around town in a poll

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and all of this was basically to warn

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people do not resist

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so here I'm being taught the changes

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you're training up and just for it main

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how to identify the resistors well I was

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a resistor so here I'm being taught to

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identify myself I never got over it you

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know we forms of Education remain we

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stopped the horrible health education

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you know learning about the three types

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of sexual intercourse including with

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animals we stopped that program in a

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third of the districts this was in the

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70s

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then I went down thinking Ronald Reagan

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was going to save the world and I got

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this job which I had access to

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everything past present future and the

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past documents were very important

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because they were left behind stupidly

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by you could say the former president

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University of Chicago or Stanford or

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Harvard my position senior policy

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advisor that thought had been filled by

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these very communist types

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in that office you understand what I

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mean prior to me yeah these were the

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people who had that job these were a big

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shot mm-hmm and they left everything

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behind so I had access to all these

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documents unbelievable or I I mean and

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then I get involved you know of course

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I'm looking what Reagan is putting in

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and it's all the school choice charter

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schools vouchers the Skinner method for

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the workforce training of course and

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other terrible programs that I did not

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approve of the nation risk was the

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phoniest great big bandwagon they got

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everybody to think that education at

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that point in time was a terrible

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failure and it wasn't it wasn't that bad

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it was pretty darn good and Sandia is -

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- you know they do all that research an

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admiral I count his name he wrote a

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report on this and pointed out that that

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was the biggest fake report that was

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ever put together by th Bell who Reagan

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appointed a Secretary of Education

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actually Bell was very close to my major

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enemy right now whose name is edwin

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meese who has been with the heritage

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foundation which is also that's the

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Trojan horse we'll get into that right

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then with the Heritage Foundation since

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probably 1980 and he's still there

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and he's all involved in supporting the

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community oriented policing system which

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I am also fighting so I ended up in that

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office

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and I came across this better education

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skills through technology grant that was

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putting the development of courseware

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for the curriculum for every school in

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the nation and I don't know that I would

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have done much with it that I would have

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leaked it had I not come on upon a page

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it said confidential

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and I thought booth I mean look the US

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Department that is unconstitutional in

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the first place

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what is this confidential page it said

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right there this federal government

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right what we can control and manipulate

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at the local level Wow and I thought

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having been all local school board who

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Wow they put it right there right in my

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face and I've said selection of task

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force members curriculum content

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everything

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I thought that I was going to leak it

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anyway because of the technology part

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which is all skin or offering

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conditioning computer stuff huh but when

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I saw that I thought okay that's it

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I got everything out of my office before

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I leaked it

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I was given an office by a really nice

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gal who I always remember she helped me

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start the main Conservative Union and

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she ultimately turned she met some

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conservative whatever you want to call

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it there really Trotskyites okay there

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dominionists whatever they are she met

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this guy and all of her wonderful values

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and everything that I knew her as when

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she visited me and made and helped me

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start the main Conservative Union she

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got me into the Department of that - she

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was White House personnel and so she

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this is before she met this guy that she

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fell off the cliff and became really

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what I consider our enemy she got me a

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little off the White House she worked

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with me on my letter to Reagan eight

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pager and she believe it or not was able

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to have to let her through to him hmm

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that was very difficult to do at that

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time even if you had a code number

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so she was really responsible for that

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and my getting into the department

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itself now she's high up in heritage and

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I don't even dare talk to her can you

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imagine this is someone I had so much

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regard for because heritage is the

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Trojan horse so we could talk about that

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later until the end of time so I go home

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I never got an answer from the president

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I waited I'm really skipping around here

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35 years I guess I'm pretty patient yeah

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I waited 35 years to write the Reagan

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Library about why I didn't get an answer

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did they have anything on the record

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well by golly they did they sent it to

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me this sent me a copy of a handwritten

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note from President Reagan to Edwin me

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so I'm just talking about who is a big

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mole everywhere at all times from 1980

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to 2000 what are we 18

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Regan wanted to meet with me but least

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blocked it

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so I found that out 35 years later Wow

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actually you can find that all you have

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type in Patriots or Manchurian

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candidates

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it's a big article I wrote which has the

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picture

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of the note from Regan Timmy's a very

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important one I wrote it

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warning people and warning Trump that

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your candidates be careful look who you

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are pointing right so you got fired for

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leaking this document about project best

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best education skills through technology

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so how frustrating has it been for you

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that you see a lot of these control

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tools that you knew about decades ago

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now they're rolled out to the cell

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phones and the tablets in recent years

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and you see the state of kids today when

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you've been talking about this

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technology-based conditioning for 30

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years I mean this Pavlovian

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psychological response reward system

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today this is social media that's right

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I have and I never understood that much

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about Skinner and operant conditioning

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prior to going into the department what

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happened is one day a letter came across

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my desk and it was from a teacher by the

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name of an her from Arizona she was

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considered to be a wonderful teacher she

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was teaching a lot of the Mexican kids

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and all dominant this is in Phoenix and

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00:24:27,610 --> 00:24:25,490
doing a wonderful job with them was they

552
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:27,620
dragged her into the Skinner training

553
00:24:31,690 --> 00:24:29,600
the first program was called exemplary

554
00:24:34,419 --> 00:24:31,700
Center for reading instruction out of

555
00:24:36,430 --> 00:24:34,429
Utah and she and her friends good

556
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:36,440
teachers had to go through this and they

557
00:24:40,090 --> 00:24:38,210
thought ah what is this

558
00:24:42,570 --> 00:24:40,100
they even had I've even got the

559
00:24:45,549 --> 00:24:42,580
documents they were ordering supplies

560
00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:45,559
the different little booklets at all how

561
00:24:51,549 --> 00:24:48,710
to train pigeons how to train animals

562
00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:51,559
these were the materials that were being

563
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:54,110
ordered by these teachers for the

564
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:55,970
exemplary Center for reading instruction

565
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:57,970
program well anyway

566
00:25:03,019 --> 00:25:01,120
hers are understood completely because

567
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:03,029
they were not letting them sit together

568
00:25:07,409 --> 00:25:05,769
they knew the teachers or her what's

569
00:25:09,570 --> 00:25:07,419
this you know they'd move them around

570
00:25:13,259 --> 00:25:09,580
and all this I'm so she quit teaching

571
00:25:15,149 --> 00:25:13,269
then I was in the department a real dodo

572
00:25:16,919 --> 00:25:15,159
I really didn't know much about Skinner

573
00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:16,929
although I found out a bit because I

574
00:25:23,129 --> 00:25:20,350
went to some brown bag lunches in the

575
00:25:24,749 --> 00:25:23,139
basement of the department where the big

576
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:24,759
honcho Williams Beatty

577
00:25:29,879 --> 00:25:27,809
mr. mastery learning was having a little

578
00:25:32,369 --> 00:25:29,889
session down there showing people how

579
00:25:34,350 --> 00:25:32,379
wonderful the Skinner method is so I had

580
00:25:36,539 --> 00:25:34,360
seen that but anyway what happens is his

581
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:36,549
letter comes across my desk it was sent

582
00:25:42,450 --> 00:25:39,279
from an Mercer of the teacher to Eldon

583
00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:42,460
rod congressman in regard to this

584
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,470
horrible program they were experimenting

585
00:25:48,539 --> 00:25:46,720
on sort of the inner-city kids you know

586
00:25:51,060 --> 00:25:48,549
the Mexicans or whatever he got whatever

587
00:25:53,340 --> 00:25:51,070
and she had been doing a wonderful job

588
00:25:56,009 --> 00:25:53,350
teaching them to read and everything and

589
00:25:58,860 --> 00:25:56,019
then she had do this she had done up

590
00:26:00,960 --> 00:25:58,870
true statements about how the kids were

591
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:00,970
throwing up getting sick they had hives

592
00:26:06,450 --> 00:26:04,450
it was all attached to this package that

593
00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:06,460
she sent through to Eldon Guardsmen

594
00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:09,580
elder rut well that package came across

595
00:26:14,590 --> 00:26:11,929
my desk

596
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:14,600
I didn't know areia and I thought well I

597
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:16,610
better do something about that but I

598
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,049
think I'll wait until I go home I'll

599
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:20,720
call from home I'm glad I did because

600
00:26:25,869 --> 00:26:23,210
she's very hot-headed I love her but you

601
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,879
know she's very hot-headed person and I

602
00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:27,679
said I've got this document here you

603
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:29,990
know this curriculum and your letter is

604
00:26:34,899 --> 00:26:33,110
fantastic what on earth is going on and

605
00:26:38,049 --> 00:26:34,909
then I made the big mistake of saying oh

606
00:26:41,580 --> 00:26:38,059
I don't think secretary th spell knows

607
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:41,590
anything about then she blue she said

608
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:46,159
you're kidding he's responsible hmm

609
00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:49,129
Reagan brought him in because ed meese

610
00:26:56,409 --> 00:26:52,070
wanted him I thought all of what have I

611
00:26:59,230 --> 00:26:56,419
run into with this teacher well I didn't

612
00:26:59,919 --> 00:26:59,240
talk to her again I said oh well yeah

613
00:27:02,169 --> 00:26:59,929
maybe

614
00:27:03,399 --> 00:27:02,179
and so that was for the end of that but

615
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:03,409
then I managed to get myself fired

616
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:05,570
because I leaked the document I went

617
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,330
home I called her and we had this long

618
00:27:12,850 --> 00:27:10,159
talk and I became very close to her like

619
00:27:15,140 --> 00:27:12,860
sisters she had all the documents her

620
00:27:17,630 --> 00:27:15,150
father-in-law was a doctor

621
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:17,640
and he had all the animals laboratory

622
00:27:23,930 --> 00:27:20,970
training materials etc what it does to

623
00:27:27,710 --> 00:27:23,940
animals she was a real expert all I have

624
00:27:31,610 --> 00:27:27,720
to say is she educated me so anyway

625
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:31,620
after I was out I wrote a little book

626
00:27:37,370 --> 00:27:35,250
called back to basics reform in 1985

627
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:37,380
this was or skineri an international

628
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:39,650
curriculum necessary for United States

629
00:27:43,790 --> 00:27:41,910
participation a one-world socialist

630
00:27:47,210 --> 00:27:43,800
government scheduled to the early years

631
00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:47,220
of the 21st century was only 39 pages

632
00:27:53,330 --> 00:27:49,590
and it's a hot potato it's on my website

633
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:53,340
it delivered coming down calm free well

634
00:27:57,290 --> 00:27:55,710
I wrote that and then all of a sudden I

635
00:28:03,260 --> 00:27:57,300
noticed that the conservative movement

636
00:28:05,950 --> 00:28:03,270
they hated that book they boycotted Fang

637
00:28:09,169 --> 00:28:05,960
Bennett the whole crowd you know Finn

638
00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:09,179
slightly so suddenly was a good friend

639
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:11,550
of mine basically I still have high

640
00:28:15,950 --> 00:28:13,170
regard for the work she did prior to

641
00:28:17,410 --> 00:28:15,960
getting involved in education Phyllis

642
00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:17,420
did good work in the political field

643
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:21,000
defense at all but anyway it was Eagle

644
00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:23,330
Forum that got the word out to boycott

645
00:28:27,260 --> 00:28:24,590
back-to-basics

646
00:28:30,770 --> 00:28:27,270
because you see it happened under Ronald

647
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:30,780
Reagan I wasn't going after him in it I

648
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,690
was just telling the country the parents

649
00:28:38,270 --> 00:28:35,760
what was happening and what was coming

650
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:38,280
down the pike for instance that critical

651
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:41,330
thinking is not a really great way to go

652
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:45,170
lenin defined critical thinking lenin

653
00:28:51,820 --> 00:28:47,370
everybody thinks is so great critical

654
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:51,830
thinking ha no no you said it's non

655
00:28:59,730 --> 00:28:56,290
absolutist evolutionary thinking

656
00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:59,740
everything evolves well that sounds okay

657
00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:02,080
you know some people but when this

658
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:04,020
started the critical thinking movement

659
00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:06,310
there were a lot of teachers that were

660
00:29:10,260 --> 00:29:08,800
opposed to because they knew that they

661
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:10,270
were trying to change those teachers

662
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:14,950
attitudes values and beliefs so yes this

663
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:17,710
is interesting the editor of my book who

664
00:29:22,460 --> 00:29:20,370
is absolutely brilliant

665
00:29:24,140 --> 00:29:22,470
I give her a great credit for what she

666
00:29:26,540 --> 00:29:24,150
did get that book together and the

667
00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:26,550
publisher both she's from Georgia and he

668
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:29,460
took that little book back to basic full

669
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:33,090
38 pager and her butcher down the street

670
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:38,880
read it and said wow that's fantastic oh

671
00:29:46,730 --> 00:29:43,650
boy that's a 38 page bomb so the editor

672
00:29:48,410 --> 00:29:46,740
said to slaw flee because eaglehorn was

673
00:29:51,410 --> 00:29:48,420
saying nobody's going to understand what

674
00:29:53,150 --> 00:29:51,420
she's saying in there and so she said

675
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:53,160
well the butcher down the street

676
00:29:58,130 --> 00:29:55,770
understood just fine hmm

677
00:30:00,440 --> 00:29:58,140
that book hadn't been allowed to get out

678
00:30:02,540 --> 00:30:00,450
I'm not kidding you we never would have

679
00:30:04,850 --> 00:30:02,550
had what we have now we've got rid of

680
00:30:07,130 --> 00:30:04,860
academics we're going into workforce

681
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:07,140
training the Soviet system one of the

682
00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:09,210
educators the Department of Education if

683
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:11,880
you get four million dollars a grad

684
00:30:16,910 --> 00:30:13,710
doing a paper on the Soviet

685
00:30:18,830 --> 00:30:16,920
Polytechnical education system so the

686
00:30:20,930 --> 00:30:18,840
Department of that has been up to tie

687
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:20,940
balls in that knowing school choice and

688
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:22,970
charters is the only way to get this

689
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,440
because charter schools you don't have

690
00:30:30,980 --> 00:30:28,080
an electric board so the parents can't

691
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:30,990
complain at least in the public school

692
00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:33,929
system it's the same curriculum the

693
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:35,220
charter schools are going to have to

694
00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:37,440
have the identical curriculum that the

695
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:38,760
public schools have because they're

696
00:30:43,650 --> 00:30:40,510
federally funded

697
00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:43,660
and I have the original legislation

698
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:45,700
coming out of the Department of Health

699
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:48,070
and Human Services you know on daycare

700
00:30:54,690 --> 00:30:52,450
standard daycare is any institution that

701
00:30:58,140 --> 00:30:54,700
takes care of children between whatever

702
00:31:01,169 --> 00:30:58,150
age and age for 12 hours or 14 or

703
00:31:03,690 --> 00:31:01,179
whatever of the day and it says that

704
00:31:06,090 --> 00:31:03,700
because it's federally funded everything

705
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:06,100
that goes on during that period must

706
00:31:15,710 --> 00:31:13,430
while some money is pulled that means

707
00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:15,720
curriculum which have hanging on the

708
00:31:21,940 --> 00:31:18,470
walls even what you ate

709
00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:21,950
so these pathetic parrots and I don't

710
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:23,240
blame them because the Heritage

711
00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:26,720
Foundation led them down this path they

712
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:29,030
all went up against common core that was

713
00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:30,710
the biggest diversion our nation has

714
00:31:37,890 --> 00:31:34,870
ever had and I say that unqualified

715
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:37,900
biggest reverse that ever happened they

716
00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:39,610
got the parents off on the diversion

717
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:41,830
there five Common Core which we've had

718
00:31:45,810 --> 00:31:44,050
ever since 1965 with the National

719
00:31:48,150 --> 00:31:45,820
Assessment just keeps changing and now

720
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:48,160
it has computers right that diversion

721
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:51,250
kept the parents from understanding to

722
00:31:56,030 --> 00:31:53,770
fight against charter schools with

723
00:31:57,410 --> 00:31:56,040
unelected board

724
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:57,420
[Music]

725
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:01,200
anyway that was my office and from that

726
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:03,810
time on we went all the way up until the

727
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:07,410
year 2000 with fantastic researchers who

728
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:08,910
were doing their own research we would

729
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:11,310
all help each other no matter what

730
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:13,200
someone got sick the other person would

731
00:32:18,380 --> 00:32:15,750
take the radio interview we didn't have

732
00:32:19,730 --> 00:32:18,390
all the research that we have now it was

733
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:19,740
a lot of work that had to be done back

734
00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:22,650
then great Patriots some dead now now

735
00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:25,710
we've got these newbies like Harwich and

736
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:28,500
pioneer heartland you name it all these

737
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:31,110
groups that are controlled by the

738
00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:38,700
and their goal is kotsky I may be hard

739
00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:40,260
for you to believe but that's the truth

740
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:43,990
and I have the proof one thing that

741
00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:47,049
happened whistling in the mid 90s I

742
00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:50,830
wrote two things one was I wrote Phyllis

743
00:32:52,860 --> 00:32:52,360
Schlafly in regard to the charter

744
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:52,870
schools

745
00:32:58,020 --> 00:32:55,450
I said Phyllis be careful you've got

746
00:33:00,180 --> 00:32:58,030
Eagles in every state who really hate

747
00:33:02,669 --> 00:33:00,190
this you got to support them she

748
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:02,679
wouldn't but attached to that particular

749
00:33:07,490 --> 00:33:05,710
letter it's at my website it says it's a

750
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:07,500
meat dish lovely that's what it is

751
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:09,730
attached to that letter I wrote which

752
00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:11,650
was an eight pager explaining to her

753
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:13,270
this is the loss of representative

754
00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:15,730
government to charter schools it's the

755
00:33:20,010 --> 00:33:17,470
implementation of the Soviet Polytech

756
00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:20,020
system workforce training life long for

757
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:22,750
our children no choice like Eugene Boise

758
00:33:29,070 --> 00:33:25,890
in Georgia said in communist countries

759
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:29,080
they do not train for jobs that don't

760
00:33:32,450 --> 00:33:30,850
exist

761
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:32,460
[Music]

762
00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:35,190
quota systems or whatever that is out of

763
00:33:40,970 --> 00:33:38,340
professor Eugene voices mouth well I was

764
00:33:43,970 --> 00:33:40,980
trying to tell Phyllis that this is what

765
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:43,980
charter schools are all about well she

766
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:45,570
wouldn't listen but attached to that

767
00:33:52,850 --> 00:33:49,650
letter to her I had about 30 pages of

768
00:33:56,540 --> 00:33:52,860
letters from Secretary of Education

769
00:34:00,650 --> 00:33:56,550
Lamar Alexander wium Bennett Chester

770
00:34:03,460 --> 00:34:00,660
Finn empower America Larry Kudlow all

771
00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:03,470
the libertarians etcetera

772
00:34:10,370 --> 00:34:07,230
supporting the Washington Education

773
00:34:15,110 --> 00:34:10,380
Association's plan for charter schools

774
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:15,120
and also the lifelong community

775
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:17,650
education agenda

776
00:34:21,330 --> 00:34:18,970
I have all these letters with their

777
00:34:23,940 --> 00:34:21,340
signatures all these people that

778
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:23,950
Americans think are great you know what

779
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:27,280
you call them conservatives so I knew

780
00:34:33,450 --> 00:34:30,610
then I comes out to Phyllis a senator my

781
00:34:35,730 --> 00:34:33,460
letter which explained a lot now we got

782
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:35,740
a hold of that document was one of those

783
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:38,890
folks the editor of my book and another

784
00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:41,290
fine Australian gal brilliant researcher

785
00:34:46,020 --> 00:34:43,630
they went to an empower America meeting

786
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:46,030
this is a big conservative group of

787
00:34:49,170 --> 00:34:47,650
power America people can look it up I

788
00:34:51,690 --> 00:34:49,180
don't know if it exists anymore but that

789
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:51,700
was in the 90s and they were late

790
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:55,930
getting there so this top change agent

791
00:35:01,230 --> 00:34:58,890
educator who's running the show or

792
00:35:03,380 --> 00:35:01,240
whoever I was with empower America

793
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:03,390
probably real leftist type I don't know

794
00:35:08,070 --> 00:35:05,950
he said oh well you know it sorry you

795
00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:08,080
missed the first presentations look

796
00:35:13,590 --> 00:35:09,820
don't worry about it I'll send you the

797
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:13,600
whole packet and he did Wow

798
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:17,410
and we've got it we got it we have it we

799
00:35:23,579 --> 00:35:20,920
have the so-called conservatives who say

800
00:35:25,529 --> 00:35:23,589
they hate the NEA

801
00:35:30,209 --> 00:35:25,539
they hate the public education system

802
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:30,219
etc we have all going on board with the

803
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:32,890
NES plan for school choice in charge how

804
00:35:38,009 --> 00:35:34,689
many people know that the NEA support

805
00:35:40,949 --> 00:35:38,019
school choice in charters so I'm trying

806
00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:40,959
to say I mean what I have gone through

807
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:43,420
with these conservatives you know I'm

808
00:35:49,870 --> 00:35:47,650
fuller once I learned I've got it but

809
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:49,880
I'm always looking

810
00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:53,690
positive but now I know that the Trojan

811
00:35:58,690 --> 00:35:55,910
horse in this country that doesn't mean

812
00:36:00,700 --> 00:35:58,700
I like the left I can't stand them but

813
00:36:02,050 --> 00:36:00,710
I've always felt that way why would I

814
00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:02,060
have started the main Conservative Union

815
00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:04,340
in the 70s it's the only really

816
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:06,260
conservative group to state ever had

817
00:36:10,660 --> 00:36:09,050
but then parity knocked it out right

818
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:10,670
because they didn't want a really

819
00:36:15,970 --> 00:36:12,580
conservative group in this state and

820
00:36:18,580 --> 00:36:15,980
then my son gets two murder attempts

821
00:36:20,980 --> 00:36:18,590
last one really almost did him in and

822
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,990
Heritage Foundation in Maine has a

823
00:36:25,180 --> 00:36:22,880
luncheon he goes there and tries to tell

824
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:25,190
the truth get people to know because it

825
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:26,690
was a complete boycott across the

826
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:28,370
country about those two murder attempts

827
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:31,250
the last one was he was really dead so

828
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:33,440
he wants to go to the luncheon and try

829
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:35,330
to explain to the people what happened

830
00:36:39,790 --> 00:36:37,520
well he starts Kogi's told to shut up

831
00:36:42,010 --> 00:36:39,800
and sit down hmm

832
00:36:47,310 --> 00:36:42,020
he's a Marine combat vet first Gulf War

833
00:36:49,690 --> 00:36:47,320
I like that so they are really dirty yes

834
00:36:52,420 --> 00:36:49,700
that really tells you how tier D they

835
00:36:54,220 --> 00:36:52,430
are absolutely and it has been just such

836
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:54,230
a wild ride for you and you have a

837
00:36:59,530 --> 00:36:57,410
really impressive resume and you know in

838
00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:59,540
deliberate dumbing down in the book you

839
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:01,760
refer to this education conspiracy as a

840
00:37:06,580 --> 00:37:04,490
war and to quote you you write the

841
00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:06,590
reason Americans do not understand this

842
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:08,150
war is because it has been fought in

843
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:10,400
secret in the schools of our nation

844
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:12,560
targeting our children who are captive

845
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:15,410
in classrooms the wagers of this war are

846
00:37:20,140 --> 00:37:17,810
using very sophisticated and effective

847
00:37:22,210 --> 00:37:20,150
tools yeah and I wanted to ask you if

848
00:37:24,010 --> 00:37:22,220
you could maybe talk about those tools

849
00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:24,020
themselves that people might not be

850
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:25,390
aware of

851
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:28,800
I will I have an article it's called

852
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:32,110
devil seven prong fork it's coming my

853
00:37:38,580 --> 00:37:35,680
favorite yes this is explained it event

854
00:37:42,090 --> 00:37:38,590
I was doing an interview like this about

855
00:37:44,340 --> 00:37:42,100
25 years ago I think and beating up on

856
00:37:45,810 --> 00:37:44,350
the audience like your poor audience we

857
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:45,820
can sing it I'm saying

858
00:37:50,730 --> 00:37:48,310
come on folks get on board don't you

859
00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:50,740
understand what I'm trying to say so

860
00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:51,580
then it was over

861
00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:54,190
and so then I thought you know those

862
00:37:58,860 --> 00:37:56,830
poor people I keep telling them this

863
00:38:02,640 --> 00:37:58,870
over and over I was like a bolt out of

864
00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:02,650
the sky it's really not their food then

865
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:04,270
I got sort of mad at myself and I said

866
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:05,530
what is their fault you know I was

867
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:08,730
arguing myself and then I realized no

868
00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:12,010
because as you said they have done this

869
00:38:18,270 --> 00:38:14,590
I call this devil seven prong pork but

870
00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:18,280
it really is about twelve prongs no but

871
00:38:23,070 --> 00:38:20,590
I'll go through the major ones one is of

872
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:23,080
course gradualism frog on the cold water

873
00:38:26,420 --> 00:38:25,210
right heat it up slowly people don't

874
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:26,430
even know they're fried

875
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:30,550
the other is somatic deception like

876
00:38:36,020 --> 00:38:32,160
we're talking about critical thinking

877
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:36,030
haha watch out or some of these basics

878
00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:38,530
basics oh yeah reading writing

879
00:38:43,590 --> 00:38:41,260
oh no that's globalism for them the

880
00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:43,600
global basic tribe sure you have a

881
00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:44,740
semantic ception

882
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:47,230
you have the fog you have semantic

883
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:48,910
deception you have the dialectic of

884
00:38:53,610 --> 00:38:51,970
course that geylang dialectic you know

885
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:53,620
I'm talking about but your listeners may

886
00:38:59,220 --> 00:38:56,650
not right and I finally realized I had

887
00:39:01,380 --> 00:38:59,230
to do it easy way after I was married my

888
00:39:04,110 --> 00:39:01,390
husband we were living in Europe in

889
00:39:08,340 --> 00:39:04,120
Belgium and I was doing the laundry and

890
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:08,350
I threw a red sweater and with his white

891
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:12,640
shirt and naturally you know he was not

892
00:39:17,610 --> 00:39:15,850
happy and so he said pretty politely he

893
00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:17,620
said you know look honey I know you've

894
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:20,080
been seeing everything but look you just

895
00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:23,110
don't touch the laundry anymore you

896
00:39:26,970 --> 00:39:25,240
don't have to do laundry for me well my

897
00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:26,980
two sons were very young that they heard

898
00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:29,460
that too and they said

899
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:32,520
yeah mom doctor Aberdare do our laundry

900
00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:36,720
again well that gets the audience

901
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:38,550
lucky you that is what you call the

902
00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:41,130
dialectic mm-hmm now what if I hadn't

903
00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:43,619
wanted you to laundry again ever right

904
00:39:48,319 --> 00:39:46,140
that's just what I do wouldn't I I throw

905
00:39:52,579 --> 00:39:48,329
a red sweater in with my husband's white

906
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:52,589
shirts create the problem he screamed he

907
00:39:57,319 --> 00:39:54,089
says don't you ever dare do laundry

908
00:39:59,680 --> 00:39:57,329
again and that is really the dialectic

909
00:40:04,940 --> 00:39:59,690
you create the problem people stream and

910
00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:04,950
you impose the solution you want now had

911
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:06,750
I been really wanting never to do

912
00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:08,250
laundry again that's exactly what I

913
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:09,720
would have done because the solution

914
00:40:14,809 --> 00:40:11,730
would have been I never have to do

915
00:40:17,299 --> 00:40:14,819
laundry again right so the dialectic is

916
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:17,309
key and you see it every day everywhere

917
00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:20,520
I'm sure you see it Georg Hegel you know

918
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:21,660
I don't talk about the German

919
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,280
philosophers but this is too much for

920
00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:25,920
people to deal with but actually there's

921
00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:28,140
nothing going on in this country right

922
00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:30,990
now I don't think except maybe in a

923
00:40:38,059 --> 00:40:33,720
local community right which isn't the

924
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:38,069
dead alien dialectic the media is loaded

925
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:40,290
with it so that's very important then we

926
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:42,450
go on to endless money supply the feds

927
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:46,490
right we go on to the controlled media I

928
00:40:51,260 --> 00:40:48,930
always used to David Rockefeller quote

929
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:51,270
and button but you know where you thank

930
00:40:58,010 --> 00:40:53,970
the top journalists at all TV et cetera

931
00:41:00,559 --> 00:40:58,020
paper for keeping his world government

932
00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:00,569
agenda under wraps we know that he said

933
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:02,150
that in baden-baden

934
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:04,910
1992

935
00:41:08,350 --> 00:41:07,280
and then you have of course the puddles

936
00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:08,360
there are plenty of money I may have

937
00:41:12,370 --> 00:41:10,550
mentioned that then you have a skinner

938
00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:12,380
method which is dog training it's not

939
00:41:18,430 --> 00:41:15,980
education but you can have the workforce

940
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:18,440
training the Soviet Polytech system

941
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:22,160
going in without that method now as I

942
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:25,040
said or maybe I didn't Ronald Reagan

943
00:41:31,180 --> 00:41:27,040
signed the agreements with Gorbachev in

944
00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:31,190
1985 to merge the two education systems

945
00:41:35,470 --> 00:41:33,380
they were called educational cultural

946
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:35,480
and scientific agreements and they also

947
00:41:41,380 --> 00:41:39,200
dealt with planners going back and forth

948
00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:41,390
to the Soviet Union municipal planning

949
00:41:46,450 --> 00:41:44,020
regional government which is communism

950
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:46,460
so he signed that agreement now the

951
00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:49,550
Heritage Foundation was solidly behind

952
00:41:55,390 --> 00:41:51,440
that in fact I think they set up an

953
00:41:56,770 --> 00:41:55,400
office in Moscow after so that's one of

954
00:42:01,420 --> 00:41:56,780
those things that I have on heritage

955
00:42:03,610 --> 00:42:01,430
right but then we all of us Patriots

956
00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:03,620
back then we had a great band of people

957
00:42:09,550 --> 00:42:06,380
we put an ad in The Washington Times we

958
00:42:11,530 --> 00:42:09,560
paid $5,000 for that to stop it but we

959
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:11,540
couldn't educate people because all the

960
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:13,490
conservative groups were boycotting

961
00:42:17,890 --> 00:42:15,920
every single thing we tried to do to let

962
00:42:18,910 --> 00:42:17,900
the country know that these agreements

963
00:42:21,220 --> 00:42:18,920
had been signed

964
00:42:24,450 --> 00:42:21,230
now the first one was signed by

965
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:24,460
Eisenhower in 58 as I mentioned earlier

966
00:42:31,930 --> 00:42:28,010
then people said the Soviet Union was

967
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:31,940
dead you know even actually agreements

968
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:32,690
were signed

969
00:42:38,650 --> 00:42:34,850
we had Russian teachers in our schools

970
00:42:41,830 --> 00:42:38,660
here in Maine teaching the teachers how

971
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:41,840
to put workforce training in how many

972
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:44,090
people know this stuff nah man that was

973
00:42:49,390 --> 00:42:46,610
in 1987

974
00:42:52,210 --> 00:42:49,400
it's all going in now all going in under

975
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:52,220
standards-based education I mean people

976
00:42:55,620 --> 00:42:54,530
don't understand that you know they can

977
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,630
give it any name they want

978
00:42:59,860 --> 00:42:57,440
performance-based results-based

979
00:43:02,500 --> 00:42:59,870
competency-based outcome based standards

980
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:02,510
based you name it it's all the same it's

981
00:43:08,530 --> 00:43:06,710
all Skinner Pavlov so it's going in

982
00:43:11,170 --> 00:43:08,540
across the country now thank you Donald

983
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:11,180
Trump and Betsy DeVos when he did that

984
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:14,270
he broke the back of our constitutional

985
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:16,130
system of government basically because

986
00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:20,450
we will have no representation look a

987
00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:22,190
lot of people don't know this the

988
00:43:27,610 --> 00:43:25,300
Department of Education budget this year

989
00:43:29,590 --> 00:43:27,620
exceeds that of Defense

990
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:29,600
now I'm sorry I have to qualify this

991
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:33,530
that's at the national state and local

992
00:43:39,130 --> 00:43:36,800
level combined education it is over one

993
00:43:41,170 --> 00:43:39,140
trillion dollars

994
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:41,180
now the defense budget is lagging behind

995
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:44,930
a little bit with 900 billion now what

996
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:48,820
your children not know everything

997
00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:51,040
all they'd have had happen is being

998
00:43:56,820 --> 00:43:53,670
brainwashed to have filthy disgusting

999
00:43:58,890 --> 00:43:56,830
morals and values have everything their

1000
00:44:00,000 --> 00:43:58,900
parents ever taught them ripped out from

1001
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:00,010
them it's not their fault

1002
00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:04,510
it's full of blue you know what

1003
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:06,070
it's the fault of the people who

1004
00:44:13,050 --> 00:44:10,480
boycotted this information and I'm mad I

1005
00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:13,060
hear ya and you mentioned workforce

1006
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:14,230
training of course that was my

1007
00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:16,570
experience felt like all I was doing was

1008
00:44:21,570 --> 00:44:18,670
being prepared to get some job

1009
00:44:23,550 --> 00:44:21,580
right and now we hear this talk about

1010
00:44:25,859 --> 00:44:23,560
cash for grades I mean this is it

1011
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:25,869
directly like just pay kids for good

1012
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:28,330
obedience oh yeah so they're ready for

1013
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:31,050
their cashiers job and another paycheck

1014
00:44:37,890 --> 00:44:34,090
you're right I mean Arne Duncan had that

1015
00:44:41,260 --> 00:44:37,900
nerve under Obama to recommend paying

1016
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:41,270
the kids for good grades

1017
00:44:45,580 --> 00:44:43,910
look I found out I don't know why I

1018
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:45,590
always have to find out these things I'm

1019
00:44:54,970 --> 00:44:50,510
a weird bird why hello a 1981 I'm sorry

1020
00:44:58,060 --> 00:44:54,980
2001 yeah I am getting older I picked up

1021
00:44:59,500 --> 00:44:58,070
the local paper Brunswick Maine

1022
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:59,510
which we used to the big naval air

1023
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:01,040
station here the best in the world

1024
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:03,050
really great you don't need more because

1025
00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:05,330
the leftist got rid of that one but

1026
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:07,550
there was an article in the paper about

1027
00:45:14,490 --> 00:45:11,200
the community oriented policing system

1028
00:45:16,109 --> 00:45:14,500
it's said that the police and remember

1029
00:45:19,470 --> 00:45:16,119
this is going in all over the country

1030
00:45:23,780 --> 00:45:19,480
now and this is what Edward me supports

1031
00:45:26,180 --> 00:45:23,790
and this is what Charlotte is Ruby hate

1032
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:26,190
this is East German spy on your neighbor

1033
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:28,710
system it's a public-private partnership

1034
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:31,410
right between the either dumb people or

1035
00:45:36,890 --> 00:45:34,290
commie leftist through the community who

1036
00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:36,900
aren't elected working with a police to

1037
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,660
make a nicer little environment for the

1038
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:41,280
little community you should have about

1039
00:45:45,470 --> 00:45:43,650
eight or ten in a big city of these

1040
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:45,480
little stations for the cops program

1041
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:48,240
well anyway when I found out about it it

1042
00:45:52,910 --> 00:45:50,490
said that this new program in Brunswick

1043
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:52,920
Maine was going to have the police are

1044
00:46:00,290 --> 00:45:56,160
giving gold medals to citizens who do

1045
00:46:01,850 --> 00:46:00,300
good deeds and I thought hmmm who

1046
00:46:04,250 --> 00:46:01,860
determines and then I read a little

1047
00:46:07,790 --> 00:46:04,260
further down I said the police determine

1048
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:07,800
what the good deed is and I thought yeah

1049
00:46:11,330 --> 00:46:09,510
and then I write this letter in

1050
00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:11,340
opposition I think to myself boy I'm not

1051
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:12,780
going to get much of a gold medal for

1052
00:46:17,450 --> 00:46:14,400
this one huh if they published my letter

1053
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:17,460
in paper and I started checking it out

1054
00:46:21,410 --> 00:46:19,920
and I've been trying to warn people

1055
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:21,420
about the community oriented policing

1056
00:46:26,060 --> 00:46:24,210
system I'm not the first one to do it

1057
00:46:28,310 --> 00:46:26,070
I'm wondering first I guess lieutenant

1058
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:28,320
work

1059
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:31,680
San Diego police detective it's on my

1060
00:46:37,450 --> 00:46:35,010
website all the stuff under cops he

1061
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:37,460
wrote a wonderful article about this and

1062
00:46:45,590 --> 00:46:41,760
he quoted from a sociologist way back in

1063
00:46:47,090 --> 00:46:45,600
the 70s he's the founder of community

1064
00:46:47,810 --> 00:46:47,100
oriented policing system and he's a

1065
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:47,820
communist

1066
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:53,130
and his name is croak jonovic TR oja and

1067
00:47:01,280 --> 00:46:58,290
OWI TC and Reggiano which says that the

1068
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:01,290
new word for our existence is community

1069
00:47:07,730 --> 00:47:05,040
we have to get rid of the family and the

1070
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:07,740
old values what you're looking at right

1071
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:10,530
now this thinking that huh I hope you

1072
00:47:15,740 --> 00:47:12,090
don't mind my language it's not really

1073
00:47:18,670 --> 00:47:15,750
too bad is it no let apply so then I

1074
00:47:21,860 --> 00:47:18,680
find out from the selectmen on the

1075
00:47:24,620 --> 00:47:21,870
Brunswick City Council who's one of us

1076
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:24,630
he sends me through the papers at the

1077
00:47:28,490 --> 00:47:26,850
board meeting where the police came in

1078
00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:28,500
and they were all setting up this new

1079
00:47:33,830 --> 00:47:31,020
system well it was really great to have

1080
00:47:35,090 --> 00:47:33,840
those papers but of course they didn't

1081
00:47:37,250 --> 00:47:35,100
mention her Janowicz

1082
00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:37,260
it's all total quality management which

1083
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:42,800
found out about that and my job because

1084
00:47:48,109 --> 00:47:45,119
when I was down in the department the

1085
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:48,119
National Training lab well actually the

1086
00:47:52,730 --> 00:47:50,880
reason Maine is so bad is we have the

1087
00:47:55,490 --> 00:47:52,740
National Training labs in Bethel Maine

1088
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:55,500
where everybody goes skiing that was set

1089
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:00,960
up by OSS types way back when and that

1090
00:48:05,329 --> 00:48:03,690
is the group process which is all the

1091
00:48:08,660 --> 00:48:05,339
sensitivity training crap and everything

1092
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:08,670
and they send doctors lawyers everybody

1093
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:11,369
from all over the world teachers of

1094
00:48:18,190 --> 00:48:15,450
course nurses all of the world go there

1095
00:48:21,620 --> 00:48:18,200
for human relations training

1096
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:21,630
well that's sensitivity training that's

1097
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:24,930
the group process that's China

1098
00:48:29,570 --> 00:48:26,850
by the way we have a very good article

1099
00:48:31,940 --> 00:48:29,580
it's in my book from Mary Barry the head

1100
00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:31,950
of the National Education Association in

1101
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:35,910
the 70s she went over to China and then

1102
00:48:40,670 --> 00:48:37,770
she came back we've got direct quotes

1103
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:40,680
from her she says we're moving slowly

1104
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:44,370
towards the Chinese system another one

1105
00:48:48,530 --> 00:48:46,650
my Australian friend went to a community

1106
00:48:49,420 --> 00:48:48,540
education meeting in the 70s in

1107
00:48:51,710 --> 00:48:49,430
Washington

1108
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:51,720
don't forget community education and

1109
00:48:55,550 --> 00:48:53,490
cops are connected to Leicester Jonna

1110
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:55,560
which were looking at - and worked who

1111
00:49:00,010 --> 00:48:57,330
is such an honest wonderful great

1112
00:49:02,690 --> 00:49:00,020
detective who outed the whole thing

1113
00:49:05,450 --> 00:49:02,700
anyway so she goes this conference on

1114
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:05,460
community ad in Washington and they're

1115
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:06,650
all these guys and girls there and

1116
00:49:11,870 --> 00:49:08,970
there's a community educator he's from

1117
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:11,880
Alaska and he's telling all the

1118
00:49:18,020 --> 00:49:14,010
educators about the importance of

1119
00:49:20,660 --> 00:49:18,030
community education so one of the

1120
00:49:22,180 --> 00:49:20,670
members of the audience says well what

1121
00:49:24,789 --> 00:49:22,190
is it

1122
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:24,799
and he said he said Chinese communist

1123
00:49:30,609 --> 00:49:26,930
system

1124
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:30,619
okay now I've seen it I know it is Mary

1125
00:49:37,269 --> 00:49:33,440
Barry said it was the head of the nei

1126
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:37,279
all these quotes are in my book so we

1127
00:49:41,019 --> 00:49:39,920
know the system is pretty bad but you

1128
00:49:43,059 --> 00:49:41,029
know there's a lot of young people

1129
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:43,069
listening who maybe are in their early

1130
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:45,200
30s maybe they have young kids of their

1131
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:45,410
own

1132
00:49:50,109 --> 00:49:48,049
are there any programs that you would

1133
00:49:52,779 --> 00:49:50,119
advise them to look into or any advice

1134
00:49:54,190 --> 00:49:52,789
you would have for someone yes maybe

1135
00:49:56,620 --> 00:49:54,200
they're homeschooling or maybe they're

1136
00:49:58,210 --> 00:49:56,630
not but if they've got their kids in the

1137
00:50:00,760 --> 00:49:58,220
public school system and let me tell you

1138
00:50:02,859 --> 00:50:00,770
something I had my daughter and all my

1139
00:50:05,049 --> 00:50:02,869
two grandchildren were put into a Rudolf

1140
00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:05,059
Steiner school you know New Age stuff

1141
00:50:10,299 --> 00:50:08,630
Waldorf and I was upset about it but I

1142
00:50:11,470 --> 00:50:10,309
let them do it I just I'm not going to

1143
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:11,480
help pay for it thank you

1144
00:50:17,049 --> 00:50:13,609
well I took about five years for her to

1145
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:17,059
get smart and get them out so they're

1146
00:50:21,339 --> 00:50:19,369
back in public school system she's the

1147
00:50:23,950 --> 00:50:21,349
same school system where I was on the

1148
00:50:26,019 --> 00:50:23,960
school board run and kids are really

1149
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:26,029
happy at least they're happy I haven't

1150
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:29,450
heard any horror stories yet but I have

1151
00:50:35,250 --> 00:50:32,079
the old math books from this professor

1152
00:50:38,859 --> 00:50:35,260
whose name escapes me at Columbia in

1153
00:50:43,269 --> 00:50:38,869
1932 he was considered the number one on

1154
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:43,279
math skills and I had the series of

1155
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,010
books in the 70s and I remember teaching

1156
00:50:49,870 --> 00:50:47,839
my kids were learning multiplication

1157
00:50:51,609 --> 00:50:49,880
tables division all this stuff you know

1158
00:50:53,769 --> 00:50:51,619
how many quarts of Clorox do you need

1159
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:53,779
for a 30,000 square foot room and you

1160
00:50:59,230 --> 00:50:56,210
know problem solving

1161
00:51:01,620 --> 00:50:59,240
it's seven years of this and he really

1162
00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:01,630
truly was considered the number one

1163
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:05,030
professor in mathematics in the United

1164
00:51:07,570 --> 00:51:05,839
States at the time

1165
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:07,580
well of course they've got a dozen eggs

1166
00:51:13,780 --> 00:51:10,240
for twenty cents we just haven't updated

1167
00:51:16,990 --> 00:51:13,790
but that is a series of books they're

1168
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:17,000
very expensive now I want my son Sam who

1169
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:19,450
has the website American deception calm

1170
00:51:23,620 --> 00:51:22,250
he also put up the list of all the

1171
00:51:26,829 --> 00:51:23,630
members of the order at Yale

1172
00:51:27,970 --> 00:51:26,839
skullenbones we often wonder if that

1173
00:51:30,099 --> 00:51:27,980
might not have something to do with

1174
00:51:32,410 --> 00:51:30,109
attempting to kill him twice huh that's

1175
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:32,420
not the American deception to all the

1176
00:51:35,710 --> 00:51:34,730
names were their backgrounds nobody ever

1177
00:51:40,270 --> 00:51:35,720
had that before

1178
00:51:43,950 --> 00:51:40,280
but anyway that last program and other I

1179
00:51:46,450 --> 00:51:43,960
think it's called quest of a nation by

1180
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:46,460
Constanza Boyle I think her name is the

1181
00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:47,930
wonderful history of American history

1182
00:51:55,780 --> 00:51:52,190
and then we have the lovest book written

1183
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:55,790
by Matt James one of his sons is high up

1184
00:52:01,630 --> 00:51:58,010
went to MIT and all involved in

1185
00:52:04,780 --> 00:52:01,640
extraordinarily high mathematical

1186
00:52:06,310 --> 00:52:04,790
scientific research etc that's one of

1187
00:52:10,290 --> 00:52:06,320
his trail at James wrote in a marvelous

1188
00:52:12,099 --> 00:52:10,300
book about homeschooling then we have

1189
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,109
Sam Blumenfeld

1190
00:52:17,230 --> 00:52:14,720
alpha phonics now Sam was a very close

1191
00:52:19,570 --> 00:52:17,240
friend of mine he wrote the foreword to

1192
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:19,580
my book he's a great writer himself

1193
00:52:23,859 --> 00:52:22,160
great scholar as far as American

1194
00:52:27,579 --> 00:52:23,869
education is concerned Samuel

1195
00:52:29,890 --> 00:52:27,589
bloomenfeld and he has his wonderful

1196
00:52:33,250 --> 00:52:29,900
reading program alpha phonics he's dead

1197
00:52:36,820 --> 00:52:33,260
now he died three years ago too bad so I

1198
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:36,830
do get that out to people now home

1199
00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:39,890
scores as well as ones who have the

1200
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:42,920
children in school I used that math

1201
00:52:48,339 --> 00:52:45,680
program with my own boys my son Sam the

1202
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:48,349
one I'm talking about is not 50 and I

1203
00:52:52,359 --> 00:52:50,450
remember we had a little place on the

1204
00:52:54,820 --> 00:52:52,369
lake and I was was worried that that

1205
00:52:59,050 --> 00:52:54,830
curriculum was go fall in the water but

1206
00:53:01,060 --> 00:52:59,060
I get them out there on the floor and

1207
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:01,070
I'd make them do their multiplication

1208
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:04,010
tables and everything else you know and

1209
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:06,710
we have a lot of fun but they went

1210
00:53:12,090 --> 00:53:08,290
through that

1211
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:12,100
and that is what the parents need you

1212
00:53:15,390 --> 00:53:13,210
know they're going to tell you all you

1213
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:15,400
don't need that now use calculators this

1214
00:53:21,090 --> 00:53:18,400
is practical stuff that anyone who's

1215
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:21,100
good in building houses or working or

1216
00:53:26,220 --> 00:53:24,250
whatever they know that you know how are

1217
00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:26,230
you going to clean a 3,000 square foot

1218
00:53:31,740 --> 00:53:28,390
gym if you don't know how much Clorox

1219
00:53:33,210 --> 00:53:31,750
you need right right right

1220
00:53:35,970 --> 00:53:33,220
you have to measure don't you I think

1221
00:53:40,109 --> 00:53:35,980
maybe so

1222
00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:40,119
there is in my book a teacher he was

1223
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:43,150
invited to a meeting of the progressive

1224
00:53:53,140 --> 00:53:50,140
and he saw it meant something good he

1225
00:53:56,410 --> 00:53:53,150
didn't know it was communist

1226
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:56,420
any what and he did a little talk on

1227
00:54:02,859 --> 00:54:00,559
Matheny and he was called into a meeting

1228
00:54:06,130 --> 00:54:02,869
at 2:00 a.m. the next morning right

1229
00:54:10,359 --> 00:54:06,140
after the conference by John Dewey the

1230
00:54:12,789 --> 00:54:10,369
head of the CFR education part and I

1231
00:54:14,380 --> 00:54:12,799
think Thorndyke who we used to train

1232
00:54:18,099 --> 00:54:14,390
pigeons

1233
00:54:19,660 --> 00:54:18,109
and it's always name is all Nelson first

1234
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:19,670
delicious oh I don't know what that

1235
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:22,910
report Nelson and they said they were

1236
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:24,650
really interested in this presentation

1237
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:26,930
and they wanted to talk to him but new

1238
00:54:33,449 --> 00:54:30,410
math new math curriculum so he tells him

1239
00:54:38,140 --> 00:54:33,459
what he thinks is important and they say

1240
00:54:40,089 --> 00:54:38,150
Nelson wake up that's exactly what we

1241
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:40,099
don't want

1242
00:54:45,819 --> 00:54:43,609
okay so I was hesitant about putting

1243
00:54:48,489 --> 00:54:45,829
that in my book because I didn't you

1244
00:54:51,249 --> 00:54:48,499
know own else is dead well finally I

1245
00:54:53,859 --> 00:54:51,259
found a friend of his another teacher I

1246
00:54:56,049 --> 00:54:53,869
wanted to document it down in Florida

1247
00:54:59,170 --> 00:54:56,059
and I talked to the guy he said oh yeah

1248
00:55:02,860 --> 00:54:59,180
that's exactly what happened yes that is

1249
00:55:05,050 --> 00:55:02,870
the true story and you could publish it

1250
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:05,060
so there you have at the progressive

1251
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:07,570
Education Association meeting and what

1252
00:55:11,530 --> 00:55:08,810
1940-something

1253
00:55:13,810 --> 00:55:11,540
this math teacher being called in at

1254
00:55:16,420 --> 00:55:13,820
2:00 a.m. by these big shots really big

1255
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:16,430
shots John Dewey Thorndike and the head

1256
00:55:21,380 --> 00:55:19,530
of CFR education section

1257
00:55:22,970 --> 00:55:21,390
they think you so smart they want him to

1258
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:22,980
do something work for him and put the

1259
00:55:28,460 --> 00:55:25,410
new math in well they got it because

1260
00:55:31,850 --> 00:55:28,470
they didn't listen to it uh but that is

1261
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:31,860
an extraordinary story in itself there's

1262
00:55:35,620 --> 00:55:33,930
so many like that I mean a lot of the

1263
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:35,630
stuff I'm talking about it's in my book

1264
00:55:44,180 --> 00:55:40,650
but the tragedy now is that the system's

1265
00:55:47,710 --> 00:55:44,190
in people have become accustomed to the

1266
00:55:51,710 --> 00:55:47,720
word you have to have standards who's

1267
00:55:55,370 --> 00:55:51,720
who sets a standard exactly I got a hold

1268
00:55:57,140 --> 00:55:55,380
of the standards in 1971 they came out

1269
00:56:00,110 --> 00:55:57,150
of the Northwest Regional lab in Oregon

1270
00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:00,120
and I got a hold of the Commissioner of

1271
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:02,940
Education letter to this wonderful

1272
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:05,850
researcher friend of ours and he gives

1273
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:08,730
all the history of the eighteen thousand

1274
00:56:13,820 --> 00:56:11,280
goals that were developed at the

1275
00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:13,830
Northwest Regional lab and sent out into

1276
00:56:19,970 --> 00:56:17,460
every single School in ition that was

1277
00:56:23,450 --> 00:56:19,980
the beginning of goals based outcomes

1278
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:23,460
based cob seek bays performance-based

1279
00:56:28,550 --> 00:56:25,200
and your listeners are probably getting

1280
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:28,560
pretty bored by now no education when

1281
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:34,160
you see that know that Skinner

1282
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:37,370
and that five pack is the brain you know

1283
00:56:41,740 --> 00:56:39,410
and even Rob Tyler who was a behavioral

1284
00:56:42,990 --> 00:56:41,750
psychologist admitted that there's no

1285
00:56:44,430 --> 00:56:43,000
transfer

1286
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:44,440
[Music]

1287
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:47,200
it's like with your dog the only thing

1288
00:56:51,029 --> 00:56:48,880
that he can remember is you next time

1289
00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:51,039
you see the dog that's coming out of the

1290
00:56:55,499 --> 00:56:53,710
box he's gonna sit reward-based animal

1291
00:56:57,150 --> 00:56:55,509
training you have to give them credit

1292
00:57:00,059 --> 00:56:57,160
but it's totally evil

1293
00:57:02,430 --> 00:57:00,069
it's the Soviet system it works well for

1294
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:02,440
workforce training there will always be

1295
00:57:07,950 --> 00:57:05,650
10% that they need you know good little

1296
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:07,960
communists you know out of the order at

1297
00:57:13,769 --> 00:57:11,890
Yale or wherever you want mmmh and we

1298
00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:13,779
know they are there in every country

1299
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:15,190
they're the ones who are running the

1300
00:57:21,180 --> 00:57:18,130
whole globe and our children were their

1301
00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:21,190
wonderful talents happy faces used to

1302
00:57:28,620 --> 00:57:26,230
have are the victims hmm well hey I feel

1303
00:57:30,210 --> 00:57:28,630
just so lucky to have been able to spend

1304
00:57:31,740 --> 00:57:30,220
time with you I know you've got to be

1305
00:57:34,589 --> 00:57:31,750
feeling the fatigue it's quite a

1306
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:34,599
marathon session but I'm so thankful

1307
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:37,359
also you know got to give a shout-out to

1308
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:39,190
our mutual friend Russell who put us in

1309
00:57:42,779 --> 00:57:40,000
contact

1310
00:57:45,749 --> 00:57:42,789
don't kid love him oh yes quite a

1311
00:57:47,999 --> 00:57:45,759
wonderful guy your book is highly highly

1312
00:57:50,339 --> 00:57:48,009
recommended again it is a free pdf

1313
00:57:53,220 --> 00:57:50,349
online and then of course your son Sam's

1314
00:57:56,339 --> 00:57:53,230
website is American deception calm where

1315
00:57:58,499 --> 00:57:56,349
you can find the PDFs and scans of many

1316
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,509
many documents people don't know exists

1317
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:00,640
and he has risked his life to get that

1318
00:58:05,339 --> 00:58:03,250
out there so you'd be better off

1319
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:05,349
spending some time checking it out

1320
00:58:09,569 --> 00:58:07,210
rather than seeing what's on Netflix

1321
00:58:12,499 --> 00:58:09,579
this evening

1322
00:58:15,059 --> 00:58:12,509
Roger say actually it's truly James Bond

1323
00:58:18,180 --> 00:58:15,069
episodes his website

1324
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:18,190
it really is it's fascinating it's

1325
00:58:24,690 --> 00:58:21,490
better than any film on Netflix full of

1326
00:58:27,749 --> 00:58:24,700
espionage and intrigue no doubt a lot of

1327
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:27,759
intrigue let's stop now look you stay in

1328
00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:30,730
touch I hope you will and I really

1329
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:31,960
enjoyed talking to you it's been fun

1330
00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:34,000
doing it this way I like it you know oh

1331
00:58:38,670 --> 00:58:35,980
this and let me ask you something how

1332
00:58:41,490 --> 00:58:38,680
are things in California with a fire bad

1333
00:58:43,470 --> 00:58:41,500
huh oh yeah we mean we it's all over the

1334
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:43,480
news than it is very bad but it is not

1335
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:45,910
really in my local area but it is very

1336
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:48,160
bad some people think that there's a

1337
00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:50,890
coordinated effort there as well I know

1338
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:53,140
I know well you know when so many bad

1339
00:58:57,630 --> 00:58:56,170
things go on it's hard not to I mean the

1340
00:58:58,530 --> 00:58:57,640
world is very different from the way

1341
00:59:02,660 --> 00:58:58,540
used to

1342
00:59:05,610 --> 00:59:02,670
and so when we have this abrupt shift in

1343
00:59:08,970 --> 00:59:05,620
events happening you know one after the

1344
00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:08,980
other you can only say well this didn't

1345
00:59:13,110 --> 00:59:10,840
used to be this way what's wrong right

1346
00:59:15,810 --> 00:59:13,120
we may be wrong we may be right I don't

1347
00:59:17,490 --> 00:59:15,820
know you got to be skeptical well stay

1348
00:59:20,130 --> 00:59:17,500
in touch and have you ever come East

1349
00:59:22,380 --> 00:59:20,140
you're always welcome here on the river

1350
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:22,390
we're a very beautiful area which is

1351
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:24,910
really conservation there are only four

1352
00:59:30,570 --> 00:59:27,610
places in the world that are like this

1353
00:59:32,820 --> 00:59:30,580
one is interested in of Sacramento where

1354
00:59:38,670 --> 00:59:32,830
the rivers meet and then we've got the

1355
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:38,680
Tigris Euphrates the Amazon and here Wow

1356
00:59:44,310 --> 00:59:41,680
that would be amazing so hopefully I can

1357
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:44,320
accept that invitation sometime and make

1358
00:59:48,330 --> 00:59:46,000
good on that it would be a real pleasure

1359
00:59:50,730 --> 00:59:48,340
to meet you in the flesh you have a

1360
00:59:53,490 --> 00:59:50,740
standing invitation to come visit you

1361
00:59:55,410 --> 00:59:53,500
better do it before I'm dead I'm gonna

1362
00:59:58,830 --> 00:59:55,420
try I'm gonna try hopefully I got a

1363
01:00:01,140 --> 00:59:58,840
while I thank you very much I'm gonna

1364
01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:01,150
let you go now and we'll stay in touch

1365
01:00:07,770 --> 01:00:03,400
please do all right take care of

1366
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:07,780
yourself okay well you too Charlotte is

1367
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:10,720
there big people an impressive resume

1368
01:00:17,610 --> 01:00:14,970
and lifetime of compelling anecdotes I

1369
01:00:21,150 --> 01:00:17,620
obviously had a long list of questions

1370
01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:21,160
we didn't get to but I'm really just a

1371
01:00:24,990 --> 01:00:23,320
crutch to lean on when a guest doesn't

1372
01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:25,000
know what they want to talk about and

1373
01:00:30,690 --> 01:00:27,190
this was a big deal to me personally i

1374
01:00:33,570 --> 01:00:30,700
think john taylor gatto and charlotte

1375
01:00:36,780 --> 01:00:33,580
are the one-two punch of the education

1376
01:00:39,540 --> 01:00:36,790
conspiracy john of course is in his 80s

1377
01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:39,550
as well and that's why i had his editor

1378
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:42,670
David Rodriguez on David was great but I

1379
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:44,650
am so humbled to be able to add

1380
01:00:49,470 --> 01:00:47,290
Charlotte is her beat to the long list

1381
01:00:51,870 --> 01:00:49,480
of guests that I can hardly believe I've

1382
01:00:53,490 --> 01:00:51,880
gotten to speak with it all of course

1383
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:53,500
this interview was hooked up by a

1384
01:00:58,170 --> 01:00:55,930
listener who knows her personally thanks

1385
01:01:00,030 --> 01:00:58,180
again Russell you know one of the things

1386
01:01:02,340 --> 01:01:00,040
I had in my notes that I didn't get to

1387
01:01:04,140 --> 01:01:02,350
bring up she touched on it and mentioned

1388
01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:04,150
that she was really shocked by what her

1389
01:01:09,330 --> 01:01:06,520
own kids were getting in public schools

1390
01:01:11,790 --> 01:01:09,340
but here's a more thorough quote from

1391
01:01:14,430 --> 01:01:11,800
the book where she says in ninth

1392
01:01:17,250 --> 01:01:14,440
in 73 I started the long journey into

1393
01:01:19,530 --> 01:01:17,260
becoming a resistor placing the first

1394
01:01:22,350 --> 01:01:19,540
incriminating piece of paper in my

1395
01:01:25,290 --> 01:01:22,360
education files that first piece of

1396
01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:25,300
paper was a purple ditto sheet entitled

1397
01:01:30,810 --> 01:01:28,270
all about me next to which was a smiley

1398
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:30,820
face it was an open-ended questionnaire

1399
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:34,330
beginning with my name is blank my son

1400
01:01:38,850 --> 01:01:36,010
brought it home from public school and

1401
01:01:41,220 --> 01:01:38,860
fourth grade the questions were highly

1402
01:01:43,620 --> 01:01:41,230
personal so much so that they encouraged

1403
01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:43,630
my son to lie since he didn't want to

1404
01:01:48,780 --> 01:01:45,790
spill the beans so to speak about his

1405
01:01:50,910 --> 01:01:48,790
mother father and brother the purpose of

1406
01:01:53,580 --> 01:01:50,920
such a questionnaire was to find out the

1407
01:01:55,620 --> 01:01:53,590
student's state of mind how he felt what

1408
01:01:58,140 --> 01:01:55,630
he liked and disliked and what his

1409
01:02:00,090 --> 01:01:58,150
values were with this knowledge it would

1410
01:02:03,180 --> 01:02:00,100
be easier for the government school to

1411
01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:03,190
modify his values and behavior at will

1412
01:02:08,430 --> 01:02:05,350
without of course the students knowledge

1413
01:02:10,140 --> 01:02:08,440
or parents consent and to me this was

1414
01:02:13,380 --> 01:02:10,150
just a great example for a couple of

1415
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:13,390
reasons one this is 1973 well before I

1416
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:14,410
was even born

1417
01:02:18,990 --> 01:02:16,930
- we've all seen these sorts of

1418
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:19,000
questionnaires so I think it's something

1419
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:21,250
that everybody's familiar with and can

1420
01:02:26,460 --> 01:02:24,370
say that yeah that happens kids do get

1421
01:02:28,410 --> 01:02:26,470
these in school and three in the

1422
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:28,420
internet age when data and information

1423
01:02:33,420 --> 01:02:30,610
is so valuable and always being used

1424
01:02:35,490 --> 01:02:33,430
against us it's a real eye-opener to see

1425
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:35,500
the clarity in that process and then

1426
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:37,570
just extrapolate it out to where we are

1427
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:39,520
now and where we're going with this

1428
01:02:44,910 --> 01:02:42,640
digitization of everything and I did try

1429
01:02:47,850 --> 01:02:44,920
to get into the realms of social media

1430
01:02:49,530 --> 01:02:47,860
and technology but I'm not sure how much

1431
01:02:51,930 --> 01:02:49,540
Charlotte really engages with the

1432
01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:51,940
cutting edge of that anyway but I think

1433
01:02:55,530 --> 01:02:53,440
she caught this coming through the

1434
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:55,540
school system a long time ago and

1435
01:03:01,050 --> 01:02:58,330
probably knows but definitely wouldn't

1436
01:03:02,580 --> 01:03:01,060
be surprised that these control

1437
01:03:04,170 --> 01:03:02,590
techniques have been rolled out to

1438
01:03:07,020 --> 01:03:04,180
everyone now that we have these damn

1439
01:03:08,790 --> 01:03:07,030
smart phones so you know I did want to

1440
01:03:11,370 --> 01:03:08,800
get more of her thoughts in that area

1441
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:11,380
but in the second hour we went from

1442
01:03:15,570 --> 01:03:13,810
education to skullenbones because she

1443
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:15,580
has a lot to say about that topic to

1444
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:17,650
sign up for the higher side chats plus

1445
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:20,290
the higher side chats plus calm to get

1446
01:03:25,380 --> 01:03:22,510
the second hour of this podcast episode

1447
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:25,390
and all the podcast episodes I do

1448
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:28,810
but in this one we got into the coming

1449
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:30,130
quota system

1450
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:33,130
Charlotte's experiences with Bonesmen as

1451
01:03:36,570 --> 01:03:33,910
a young girl

1452
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:36,580
I'm just being around the house her

1453
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:38,890
grandfather's involvement with opening

1454
01:03:43,530 --> 01:03:41,770
up gold mines in South Africa the

1455
01:03:46,620 --> 01:03:43,540
forbidden books she wasn't supposed to

1456
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:46,630
go near her son Sam's belief in aliens

1457
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:49,330
the Heritage Foundation and the council

1458
01:03:56,490 --> 01:03:53,050
for national policy all great topics and

1459
01:03:59,070 --> 01:03:56,500
I did get to ask her if she thinks magic

1460
01:04:01,140 --> 01:03:59,080
is real which I didn't expect to come up

1461
01:04:03,420 --> 01:04:01,150
at all but I hadn't take the shot

1462
01:04:05,970 --> 01:04:03,430
because I just thought it was a very THC

1463
01:04:08,850 --> 01:04:05,980
question to someone who served at such a

1464
01:04:11,790 --> 01:04:08,860
high level under Reagan who respected

1465
01:04:13,890 --> 01:04:11,800
magic astrology at least and also a

1466
01:04:17,460 --> 01:04:13,900
descendant of at least two generations

1467
01:04:19,380 --> 01:04:17,470
of Bonesmen I mean you got ask so I

1468
01:04:21,510 --> 01:04:19,390
loved it kind of have to give her a pass

1469
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:21,520
on some things because she is a product

1470
01:04:26,190 --> 01:04:22,510
of a different era

1471
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:26,200
she is 87 years young I don't think she

1472
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:27,850
was hearing me all that well at times

1473
01:04:33,390 --> 01:04:30,160
but it could have been Skype I wouldn't

1474
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:33,400
be surprised either way I did also want

1475
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:35,170
to throw out there that the first higher

1476
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:38,050
side chats joint session will be on the

1477
01:04:47,130 --> 01:04:42,330
31st at 7:00 p.m. Pacific Standard Time

1478
01:04:49,740 --> 01:04:47,140
using zoom anyone can call in join the

1479
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:49,750
room watch live and it will be archived

1480
01:04:55,050 --> 01:04:52,810
for plus members I will put the links

1481
01:04:57,930 --> 01:04:55,060
everywhere I'm able to put them that's

1482
01:05:00,810 --> 01:04:57,940
THC related and you can come join live

1483
01:05:03,150 --> 01:05:00,820
as I take calls hopefully you have crazy

1484
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:03,160
stories or some research thread you're

1485
01:05:08,670 --> 01:05:06,880
on or some paranormal experience I want

1486
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:08,680
to hear that stuff so anything you got

1487
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:11,200
we will chat it up I'm hoping this is a

1488
01:05:14,780 --> 01:05:12,850
lot of fun I have gotten some great

1489
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:14,790
emails over the years about really

1490
01:05:20,820 --> 01:05:17,200
fascinating things and I hope that the

1491
01:05:22,860 --> 01:05:20,830
calls are of a similar breed but besides

1492
01:05:25,260 --> 01:05:22,870
that I got two more shows coming out to

1493
01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:25,270
you this month one return guest and one

1494
01:05:31,470 --> 01:05:28,480
brand-new one who is quite provocatively

1495
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:31,480
far out there in his positions doesn't

1496
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:33,520
mean he's right or wrong but he pushes

1497
01:05:38,990 --> 01:05:35,890
the proverbial envelope quite far and I

1498
01:05:41,540 --> 01:05:39,000
think you're going to dig it until then

1499
01:05:44,060 --> 01:05:41,550
done my part your move education

1500
01:05:47,900 --> 01:05:44,070
crafters skinner method sleaze balls and

1501
01:05:49,270 --> 01:05:47,910
Pavlovian people trainers your

1502
01:05:54,890 --> 01:05:49,280
move

1503
01:06:00,260 --> 01:05:54,900
have a drink enough smoke listen to the

1504
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:00,270
cast shine a shiny spot light the

1505
01:06:10,820 --> 01:06:05,250
criminals on blast the pinstripe man of

1506
01:06:14,660 --> 01:06:10,830
morning and families of Finance do pawn

1507
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:14,670
Windsor and Rothschild the kids don't

1508
01:06:22,310 --> 01:06:19,410
stand a chance the kids don't the kids

1509
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:22,320
don't stand the kids don't stand a

1510
01:06:29,180 --> 01:06:26,250
chance I said the kids don't the kids

1511
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:29,190
don't stand the kids don't stand a

1512
01:06:39,110 --> 01:06:34,530
chance we're looking for the answer to

1513
01:06:44,750 --> 01:06:39,120
questions never asked so we come to the

1514
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:44,760
car wood for the higher side chat the

1515
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:49,410
Pinstripe man of morning and families of

1516
01:06:58,820 --> 01:06:54,170
Finance do pawn Windsor and Rothschild

1517
01:07:02,270 --> 01:06:58,830
the kids don't stand a chance the kids

1518
01:07:05,690 --> 01:07:02,280
don't the kids don't stand the kids

1519
01:07:09,140 --> 01:07:05,700
don't stand a chance I said the kids

1520
01:07:10,460 --> 01:07:09,150
don't the kids don't stand the kids

1521
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:10,470
don't stand

1522
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:29,730
chance involved in shady business we try

1523
01:07:39,620 --> 01:07:34,410
to get a glance we're working on the

1524
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:39,630
numbers resistance must advance the

1525
01:07:48,410 --> 01:07:44,250
pinstripe man of morning and families of

1526
01:07:53,660 --> 01:07:48,420
Finance DuPont Windsor and Rothschild

1527
01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:53,670
the kids don't stand a chance the kids

1528
01:08:00,530 --> 01:07:57,119
don't the kids don't stand the kids

1529
01:08:03,980 --> 01:08:00,540
don't stand a chance I said the kids

1530
01:08:08,780 --> 01:08:03,990
don't the kids don't stand the kids

1531
01:08:12,020 --> 01:08:08,790
don't stand a chance the kids don't the

1532
01:08:15,950 --> 01:08:12,030
kids don't stand the kids don't stand a

1533
01:08:18,890 --> 01:08:15,960
chance I said the kids don't the kids